Linda Francis/ I certainly agree with Dan Weiskopf’s well taken points and enjoy his caveat -as if we could know. And Taney: that this romance has been going on through history and your observation: “Beneath all the cynicism and irony that set in with postmodernism it’s hard not to detect a really deep sadness compounded by a pervasive sense of insecurity about art’s agency as a cultural force.” Witnessing the demoralization of young art students in the face of postmodernism was tough. I realized that you cannot take a young developing cohort and tell them that their ideals and aspirations are fictions without derailing their development. Perhaps science/art is an escape from the wreckage, propelling the self into the comfortable zone of the outlier — Dan’s point #5. And subtext:” The Matrix”.